Forum/Balloon Club Idea's

Started by Graham Lee, November 17, 2010, 11:33:11 AM

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Kenny

#30
I think this a great idea and I wish I was living in the UK as I would be the first to join.... :(


Maybe when I move back...when that will be ...I dont know :?:
TwIsT On


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Neil

#31
Nice suggestions, Danny.

I'll throw in 'United Airtwists' with a balloon lion as the logo (yes, I know the lion was MGM, not United Artists...) surrounded by the latin phrase 'cura et vomere'  (latin for 'Care and Share' - just extending the 'Ars Gratia Artis' theme of MGM...)   :mrgreen:

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Danny the Idiot

#32
nice ones Neil!

When I thought of the BBC I looked up the original BBC's motto "Nation Shall Speak Peace Unto Nation" but I couldn't get my head around to to re-do it for twisting!

 :shock:
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Graham Lee

#33
Quote from: "Pinchtwist"I think this a great idea and I wish I was living in the UK as I would be the first to join.... :(
Maybe when I move back...when that will be ...I dont know :?:
Kenny you can join and get the benefits as the plan is to video the days and send to members.
I was going through the figures and think that possibly £99 eventually will be to cheap depending on membership numbers to run 10 days throughout the year, I was trying to work out what refund per event people would need if they joined halfway through the year. It could be £7.50 for a care & share day and £15.50 for a main lecture day.
I would think that £10 for a C/S day and £20 main lecture day would be more of an appropriate charge which would be £130 a year, if we all think this is to high a cost we could think about just having perhaps 8 days a year to keep the figure below £100.
For the next two years we have sponsorship from Qualatex for the care & share days which will help out while the club is building up membership, It would be nice for the club eventually to be self sufficient and pay it's own way.
So while we are trying to build the club up and due to Qualatex kindly putting up some sponsorship money I think £99 is the price to begin.
We do not want to put people off any of the days by charging excessively so as a suggestion for non members to come along shall we charge £15 for a care and share day and £35 for a main lecture which would be £210 making the club an attractive alternative, non members attending days would not get a DVD.
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Neil

#34
I think that all makes sense, Graham - the price is cheap for membership (since you're getting the DVDs even when you can't attend the days) and the 'pay on the day' policy is not so prohibitive as to put newcomers off attending the days either.

That's brilliant that Qualatex are sponsoring the care and share too for the next couple of years - personally I wouldn't think of using anything else.

It's a great idea to have a nationwide twisters club, and I can see nothing but benefits in becoming a member - many thanks for taking the time and trouble that you obviously have into getting this moving and looking like it's going to happen.  :D

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Graham Lee

#35
Oh well as they say in for a penny, in for a pound. I have put details up about joining the club, http://www.balloonartwholesale.co.uk/produ ... 54-23.html
Even though there are many things still to be decided, name, rules etc.
The cost on the site is £105 to take into account PayPal charges, if anyone would like to send a cheque or do a bank transfer it will be £99.
It would be nice if the main lecture day in Birmingham which will also double as "The David Grist Memorial Lecture" would also be our party day as it will be the most central one for people to attend. So if we go with this perhaps we can add a buffet lunch to this day, club funds permitting.
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Danny the Idiot

#36
Another idea I had for the name etc was this

UK Balloon Jams - spreading the art

Or Spreading the knowledge

What do people think?

I can keep coming up with names but its no good unless people say what they think?

What say YOU?
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Graham Lee

#37
We already have four members  :D

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Kenny

#38
Hi Graham.

For me personally I would like to be there for the experience a DVD just would'nt cut it for me.

With buieness being very slow at the moment it's looking like I won't be able to join even for the DVD of the day!!

But when things pick up hopefully I may be able to join and attend the days....Just have to wait and see.
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Graham Lee

#39
I think the plan is for membership to start from April with David Brenion being the first lecture, I have booked Shirley for the Darlington day but we never spoke about recording the session as the day was booked before any mention of a club.

Many thanks for the positive feedback about the club, as for names I rather like twist together made from balloons the t from twist and the t from together can be twisted around We Care and the last t from twist and the r from together could be twisted as well,

TWIST
We Care
TOGETHER
We Share

All central with twist together in one colour or multi and we care we share in one bold colour so it would also read we care, together we share.
All other suggestions are welcomed.

If someone had a few minutes and was good with photoshop perhaps we could get a mock up??
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Danny the Idiot

#40
So Graham just to clarify.

The Shirley Ray lecture day won't be included in the Club membership?  And therefore will not be video'd. Or is it included but won't be video'd?

Or do club membership benefits start in April with David Brenion, the Basic day and Tom Saeys and David's lecture will be video'd.

On the name front - Twist doesn't do it for me. Sorry Graham.
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Graham Lee

#41
I booked Shirley before the idea of the club was mentioned so there was no mention to Shirley that the day would be filmed so it is unfair to move the goalposts after agreeing fees etc.
We could make the start date for March and have the Shirley Ray day included free for members but the lecture will not be filmed.
You have to pay the lecturer a bigger fee to have the day filmed.
The same with Tom, he was booked and fee agreed before the mention of the club, I'm hoping I can perhaps record one of the sessions but will not push for this if Tom would rather not have a portion of the day filmed.

I agree twist is not a fantastic name for people outside our industry to find a balloon related club via Google, but are we looking for that?
Balloon Art would be much better but Balloon Art Together does not have the ring to it as Twist Together,
It's a shame that it looks like just Danny and I are attempting to find a catchy name for the club.
Perhaps we could use the initials of twist?
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Danny the Idiot

#42
Graham that sounds fine about the videoing and if Shirley Ray's day can be included in the club membership that would be fantastic too.



How about (first attempt mind!)

T     Together
W     We
I       Insist on           or Improve by
S      Sharing
T     Twisting

please feel free to improve!
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Neil

#43
At the risk of this turning into 'consensus by committee', I'm not sure that TWIST really works for me, sorry.  I get 'United Twisters' for example, as it conveys a group of people aiming for the same goal (United) and what that goal is (Twisting), but TWIST doesn't really say anything to me...

Personally (despite my earlier post) and apologies to our friends over the pond - I feel 'twist' or 'twisters' is a bit American-ised.  I think people in the UK and possibly Europe understand the term 'Balloon Modelling' to refer to what we do...  Danny came up with some great suggestions which seem to have fallen on deaf keyboards.  :?

In the grand scheme of things it's not really that big an issue, but thought (as per) I'd chuck in my tuppenceworth - well, it shows I care!

(Oh, and I've signed up for the club!)  :D

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Neil

#44
Quote from: "Graham Lee"It's a shame that it looks like just Danny and I are attempting to find a catchy name for the club.
There's been other contributions too...  :oops:

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