The Balloon Artistes Guild Logo

Started by magirob, March 29, 2013, 11:51:23 AM

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Rhian

#15
Looks great - as long as we don't get sued by Jeff Koon ;)

Robeagling

#16
Hi

I like it and it stands out nicely. The two colour ring is much better than the alternating two colour ring which reminded me of one of those life saving rings! My only question is did you ever think of any other balloon creation apart from the dog. I remember in Stanstead Graham showed his favourite one balloon flower like design..

Just a thought

Rob

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magirob

#17
Great, I don't think Jeff Koons will sue us, our dog has a longer tail than his :-)  and the balloon dog was around years before he borrowed it :grin:

I used the dog design for a couple of reasons,
1 - it is Grahams so it was handy to use as I only had to ask for Grahams permission to use it.
2 - the dog seems to be the universal sculpture for balloon modellers, the one sculpture we all usually learn to start with and the one that members of public ask for mostly :-)  

saying that, I am happy to work with some other ideas :-D

Danny the Idiot

#18
Here's my tuppence ha'penny worth...

For me Artiste is a French word for Artist. I think there are a couple of definitions and Artistes is ok, but for clarity personally I would prefer
The Balloon Artists Guild.

You can take E or leave E!  :)

Secondly, I don't like the black on the background - its very dark! I think its ok with the white lettering and white dog. But I prefer something very colourful to represent a colourful art and guild! I'm not sure what to suggest in place of black though.

Lastly, Rob you're doing a great job, thank you!  :D
Danny Schlesinger
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nippy99

#19
I apologise in advance for my comments....

A balloon dog is universally recognisable to the general public who have become accustomed to seeing balloon 'artists' churn out dogs, swords, giraffes and sellotaped balloon hearts. Whilst The Balloon Artists Guild (I agree with Danny) is about promoting and improving our art form for people of all abilities, I do feel the 'balloon dog' doesn't symbolise the creativity and talent of everyone here. Even with the beginner classes I have seen of Graham's he starts with a rabbit or maybe a flower.

Rob, I fully appreciate all your time and effort and I do not mean to be critical of you, believe me, but it does look very homemade and probably isn't something that I would want to have on a t-shirt or my coffee mug.

Maybe we should come up with a list of things that the Balloon Artist Guild stands for and use that list to create a logo.

p.s. can you tell I hate balloon dogs  :lol:

p.p.s. - don't anyone jump down my throat for sharing my views.
Darren Atkins
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magirob

#20
fair comments from both of you, I totally understand and respect those comments, maybe Graham was right on the fact that I have opened a bag of worms :-)

my original idea for the logo was for people to display on their websites and advertising to show they were a member of the guild.

Maybe we should leave it then?

I have no issues either way :-)

PS I hate balloon dogs too, he he

nippy99

#21
Rob,

I think a logo is a brilliant idea and would be very proud to display it on my website and marketing material but it would need to be the same type quality graphics.

Don't give up - I am probably a lone voice here and there are many other members who may want to use it.

Maybe we should have a can of balloon worms in the middle ;-)
Darren Atkins
MagicWorks Ltd


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magirob

#22
well I think the problem is that there are few images I can think of which are instantly recognisable as a balloon sculpture on such a small logo, I will keep thinking about it :-)  

thanks for the input tho, I like the idea of a can of balloon worms :-)

Danny the Idiot

#23
I agree with Darren it has to look (and be) like a top quality logo. However the balloon dog is an iconic image. I'm not sure what else is so instantly recognisable.

Perhaps just the words in balloon letters like Balloon Chat.co.uk? Or like the recently made header for Graham's Balloon Art Wholesale?
Danny Schlesinger
Balloon Excellence Award Winner
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KJ Entertainments

#24
This is a really difficult thing to do and I commend you for trying, I did have a think about his a while ago but like a bear with a very small brain I didn't get very far. I find myself agreeing with everyone to some extent or another and think I should try and join in a little more as the guild has given me so much since it started.
Darren is right the image if it's going to be used on websites etc should be a quality picture and something that we as a community would be proud to display everywhere. Also Darren mentions that the idea is that we are aiming to encourage improvement and creativity...but as we all know there is no right and wrong way to make anything As long as we can pursued the customer that what we are giving them is what they are after, we succeed. We all make things differently and it would be really hard to use a 'universal' symbol other than the dog. (p.s. I'm not in love with them either)
Rob is right as I was saying above, the logo needs to be something recognizable and small, I can only think of the one balloon dog or a small flower or maybe even a giraffe (just to save us from Jeff's wrath). We have all made one of these three things in the past, but they unfortunately don't encompass the improvement in our art. It's a toughie isn't it?
Danny is also right Rob you are doing a great job and I don't envy you in what you've taken on.
I think that you're along the right lines but not really sure where you go from here has anyone else got any ideas for Rob to play with? As I don't really seem to come up with much more than what's already been said.

Areyouhappydad

#25
As a non member of BAG, I am going to wade in and hope I don't get shot!
It strikes me that no one will ever truly agree on a design you all think is representative of the amazing art you create, but consider if a guild without a logo is more important than having one.
From what everyone has said so far, may I suggest the primary colour balloons round the edge with a dark interior and the three letters BAG as balloons in the middle. It seems to address concerns over dogs and gets rid of any artist/ artiste confusion.
Just my opinion.
Well done Rob for putting yourself in the firing line. Who knew balloons were so emotive! ;)
Kindest Regards
Stuart

We all have our cross to bear, but some of us need more wood than others!

magirob

#26
Thanks for all the suggestions and thoughts, I am giving it some thinking to try and work out any other ideas but I think it is one of those things where I won't be able to please everyone.

Its been good to see the comments on here so thanks for all of those.

I will continue to think about it and as there is no rush for it and its not desperately needed, something will eventually come up that we will all like :-)

nippy99

#27
And I guess this is why the logo for the 2012 Olympics cost a few million pounds! It is an incredibly difficult thing to convey meaning and intention with just a single logo.
Darren Atkins
MagicWorks Ltd


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Graham Lee

#28
I have been away for a couple of days but was keeping an eye on this thread, I would have posted if I had my laptop with me but only had my phone which sometimes is a challenge to post a reply on. I was liking the badge, it is only version, I think four, my latest header went through to about 13 before I was happy. I would like to see what the logo would look like with a variety of colours in the centre so that we could post them all and see what one your eye is automatically drawn to. I think just using the three primary colours is a good starting point but am always open to ideas and suggestions. As long as the badge is a starting point for a discussion on balloons with joe public then it has achieved what is required. At least they would see the dog made from balloons the same as if we had the letters made from balloons.

What ever logo we end up with you have to view it as a 1" lapel badge or an inch square on a letter head, so simple and clean while also looking professional are what we are striving for.

Can someone mock up a template with BAG written in the centre out of balloons?

I do have the alphabet already made from balloons on a White background so will see if I can find them on my computer.
"Lets Improve Our Art"
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Graham Lee

#29
I have started to use the logo on both websites to advertise the guild  :)  It is still a work in progress but I thought it looked better than the Bag DVD cover.
"Lets Improve Our Art"
Balloon Excellence 2012 Award Winner
For Services to the Balloon Community.
https://www.balloonartwholesale.co.uk
http://www.sempertexballoons.co.uk